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  Some pearls from John, Lennon that is

  by Big Dog in

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  wisdom from the walrus:

  all we are saying is give peace a chance.

  christianity will go.

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  BTTT
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  no part of this world?

  by riverrat in

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  an elder of the local jw congregation displays purple heart plates on his vehicles.

  is this appropriate in jw world?

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  Riverrat, welcome to the forum. Like Gretchen I have been out a long time but I wouldn't think that is too typical of JW's, I'm sure he takes some heat for it but probably thinks, hey I was a soldier before I was a JW so screw em.
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  Some pearls from John, Lennon that is

  by Big Dog in

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  wisdom from the walrus:

  all we are saying is give peace a chance.

  christianity will go.

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  Wisdom from the Walrus:

  All we are saying is give peace a chance.
  
  Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue with that; I'm right and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now; I don't know which will go first - rock and roll or Christianity.
  
  God is a concept by which we measure our pain.
  
  Guilt for being rich, and guilt thinking that perhaps love and peace isn't enough and you have to go and get shot or something.
  
  I believe in everything until it's disproved. So I believe in fairies, the myths, dragons. It all exists, even if it's in your mind. Who's to say that dreams and nightmares aren't as real as the here and now?
  
  I believe in God, but not as one thing, not as an old man in the sky. I believe that what people call God is something in all of us. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong.
  
  If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace.
  
  Jesus was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me.
  
  Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans.
  
  Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.
  
  Possession isn't nine-tenths of the law. It's nine-tenths of the problem.
  
  Reality leaves a lot to the imagination.
  
  Rituals are important. Nowadays it's hip not to be married. I'm not interested in being hip.
  
  The more I see the less I know for sure.
  
  
  You don't need anybody to tell you who you are or what you are. You are what you are!
  
  You either get tired fighting for peace, or you die.
  
  You're just left with yourself all the time, whatever you do anyway. You've got to get down to your own God in your own temple. It's all down to you, mate.
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  churches appreciating each other

  by rebel8 in

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  yesterday i saw something i've never seen before.

  a protestant church on the left side of the road has a sign saying it's their 50th anniversary.

  there is a rc church right across the street.

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  My God what next, cats living with dogs, its the end I tell ya, the living end.
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  The GB, Evil incarnate, or just trapped like the rest?

  by daystar in

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  if you believe that the wbts is a high control group, cult, or whatever, do you also believe that the design, the isolationist doctrines and subtle mind control is all on purpose?

  or did it just sort of evolve that way?.

  in other words, do you think russell, rutherford and the governing body purposefully look(ed) for, or make(made) up, biblical evidence to support controlling doctrines?

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  I think Kid-A pretty much nailed it.
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  Wanderlustguy...

  by under74 in

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  i just have to say from reading your posts...you're a reasonable, genuine, honest and all around good guy.. just had to post it....i know you're pulling for a certain jwd member and i think you're doing a good job.

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  WLG, hope all is well! Take good care of yourself, you deserve it.
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  How similar would racism/sexism vs. religious discrimination be?

  by kwintestal in

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  i've been reading up on recent rulings of human rights violations in nova scotia, and the awards that have been given to victims in the last few years.

  something that i've noticed is that the two common violations are always matters of race, or sex.

  nowhere did i see someone who was the victim of religious discrimination (except a minister who wasn't permitted to use a town facility for preaching, btw he was awarded $6,000).

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  jgnat, I totally agree, I think people were being bashed simply for being christian, ie. they were being bashed for being stupid enough to believe in a god/God and/or a religion.
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  How similar would racism/sexism vs. religious discrimination be?

  by kwintestal in

  1. jw
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  i've been reading up on recent rulings of human rights violations in nova scotia, and the awards that have been given to victims in the last few years.

  something that i've noticed is that the two common violations are always matters of race, or sex.

  nowhere did i see someone who was the victim of religious discrimination (except a minister who wasn't permitted to use a town facility for preaching, btw he was awarded $6,000).

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  Kwin,

  I remember now, it was the bashing thread, where people were saying that it was wrong to bash religion and likened it to bashing people on the basis of race, sexual orientation, etc. and people said no, its not the same as it is chosen rather than hereditary.

  It was Billygoat/Andi's thread.
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  How similar would racism/sexism vs. religious discrimination be?

  by kwintestal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been reading up on recent rulings of human rights violations in nova scotia, and the awards that have been given to victims in the last few years.

  something that i've noticed is that the two common violations are always matters of race, or sex.

  nowhere did i see someone who was the victim of religious discrimination (except a minister who wasn't permitted to use a town facility for preaching, btw he was awarded $6,000).

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  I thought I recall that the consensus on this board was that religious discrimination did not rise to the level of racial or sexual discrimination as one chooses one's religion where race and sex are not chosen, but I could be wrong.
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  Why have you rejected all forms of faith?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  it seems that when a person leaves jw's, there's just no telling where he'll end up spiritually.

  christian, jew, pagan, jamesthomasism -- i dare say every faith is represented among us.. but there are those that reject faith altogether.

  they are often accused of letting the watchtower steal god from them, or throwing the baby out with the bath.. are you one those that rejected faith altogether after your exit?

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  i find the "do you believe in love" thing funny. and how it's used to make faith appear more rational

  
  Then you misunderstand the point that was being made if you think it was simply made to promote a belief in some supernatural entity. At the outset this thread was not meant to be a do you believe in God thread, but whether you had faith in anything outside of yourself. The point was that we have faith in many things, so that having "faith" is not irrational.
  
  Funky made two comments:
  

  
  
  I don't think I ever really had faith. I always believed what the available evidence compelled me to believe. AND
  
  

  After having a long-held belief overturned by the first appearance of evidence, wouldn't you be very wary of believing in something unproven ever again

  
  

  
  
  Those comments prompted my question about love, contrary to what anyone would like to believe, love cannot be proven with a capital P, it can be inferred, it can be assumed but in no way is there a scientific method of PROVING that someone loves you, ergo, you go on faith. The point I was trying to make is that we humans operated on faith in many ways, in the mundane things as Doogie pointed out with his remote to basing our life on the faith that our significant other truly loves us and wants to spend their life with us, to things that science tells us that we as individuals can't verify (ie. I believe in the theory of relativity but the maths to prove it are far beyond my reach) so I take it on faith.
  So the point is and was that faith is with us in many ways, and that if we only believe that which we ourselves can prove or verify we won't be believing in much. The question regarding love was not to make faith in a god appear more rational, but to illustrate that we operate on faith on many levels, both in our secular life and for those of us that have a spiritual life. If someone wants to see that as rational or irrational that's up to them.